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The result was keep‎ . Aoidh (talk) 05:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Babajide Oluwase

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Nigerian adviser to Economic Community of West African States and European Union (EU) Delegation to Nigeria on Green and Digital Economy, not elected office; an environmental sustainability advocate and a cleantech entrepreneur and the author of fictional story book 'Young Climate Heroes', which has impacted 7,000 students on the basics of sustainability and climate change - this subject is not notable in political role, entrepreneurial role (NCORP and all that) or as an author (WP:NAUTHOR). We are trying very, very hard, we might be gushingly promotional, but we are not ultimately notable. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:45, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[[4]][[5]] [[6]] [[7]][[[8]] [[9]] [[10]] [[11]] [[12]].Epcc12345 (talk) 16:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 12:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is literally this IP's only contribution to Wikipedia. Grief. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:41, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: BLP Fails GNG and BIO. I admit I didn't look at every source above or in the article, but I looked at enough to see they are all mentions, primary, nothing that meets IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Since the above Keep post contains a BEFORE, I didn't bother to do another.
If I missed something, all I need is two citations from IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Not a mention, but SIGCOV about the Subject, not a mention in an article about another subject. If I get a spam list of links I won't bother, I just need the best two.
BLPs need clearly IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability to avoid abuse per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV).  // Timothy :: talk  11:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
TimothyBlueThank you for admitting you didn't checked all the sources but please kindly look at below reference closely especially the first three they meets (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV) and most especially qualify WP:BASIC and WP:GNG[[19]] [[20]][[21]] [[22]],[[23]].High Regards.Epcc12345 (talk) 13:46, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - per WP:BASIC WP:GNG the source above are secondary sources and independent of the subjects.

My analysis from a paragraph on source one (1) [[24]]

Ecotutu Co-Founder and Growth Lead Babajide Oluwase have contributed to improving the livelihoods of farmers by enabling them to store their produce for longer periods. According to a reliable source from' Punch newspaper, the Lagos-born entrepreneur was among the Nigerian youths appointed into EU decision-making board and currently works as an adviser to the European Union Delegation to Nigeria and ECOWAS. He was Born in the early 90’s and His passion and interest in clean tech have been with him from his tender years. He obtained his B.Tech. (Hons) in Urban and Regional Planning from the Federal University of Technology Akure, Nigeria and a mini-MBA from Lagos Business School before proceeding further to obtian a Leadership in Business certification from The University of Iowa Tippie College of Business
.Proves it a secondary (independent from the subject) and it from reliable source aswell (Nigeria National newspaper) and if you read other paragraph it satisfied WP: SIR (Significant, independent and Reliable)

Sources 2: [[25]]

Babajide Oluwase is the recent winner of the Zenith Tech Fair with the theme: “Future Forward 2.0,” which was held on Wednesday at Eko Hotels & Suites, Victoria Island, Lagos.

He is the Growth Lead, CEO, and Founder of Ecotutu and an Impact Officer at Global Shapers Community – Lagos Hub. He has a master’s degree from the University of Lagos and a bachelor’s degree from the Federal University of Technology Akure​ (FUTA). Born on July 1 in 1991, Babajide Oluwase is a member of the World economic forum and also served as an adviser to European Union (EU) delegation to Nigeria and ECOWAS. He has over six years of experience working at the intersection of technological advancement and improving well-being for the underserved population. He is also the Founder/CEO of RenewDrive, a startup that works predominantly to provide access to affordable clean-tech solutions. Since 2015, he has demonstrated extensive and relevant experience in creating environmental-focused solutions and has a track record of establishing cost-saving initiatives for corporate organizations and government MDAs. In 2016, he authored the ‘Young Climate Heroes’ book that has helped 7000+ students understand the basics of climate change and sustainability using stories, and co-designed a zero-waste integration program reaching 12000+ students in secondary schools across Nigeria. In 2017 he co-founded ECOtutu with the aim to mitigate the problem of food waste, the gaps existing between preservation and transportation from farm gates to the marketplace through refrigeration of agricultural products, in the hope that consumers buy the products in the same shape and state as producers harvested it.

​He got his first major funding of $5000, which came from the Tony Elumelu foundation in 2018. From there, it led him to create his company’s proof of concept to further validate the problem being solved.

The above is an after- analysis of the huge event award which he won see [26]

Proves it qualify WP: SIR aswell.Same apply to source 3: see [27]. Pass WP:SIR Which makes him notable enough. This makes him not only qualify WP:GNG but also WP:Basic. Robin499 (talk) 19:46, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 02:03, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One final relist to see if consensus can be established.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aoidh (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Source eval requested above:
Two promo refs, one ref that doesn't mention subject and one that passes IS RS SIGCOV. Still fails GNG and more importantly it fails WP:BLP.  // Timothy :: talk  21:31, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reply evaluation: I am sorry for chuckling in, but

on the Hackathon Contest he won below are ref where his name was mentioned as against the earlier one which had his company name and an interview ref after he won the award[[28]] [[29]]

  • And this is also an afterwards of the awards publications that you termed ' promotional'

https://tribuneonlineng.com/meet-the-winner-of-zenith-bank-tech-fair/ it not a promotion but an independent coverage by the Nigerian national newspaper afterwards of the huge publicity he gained receiving the award.

  • When someone wins an important events or awards it brings About huge publicity that is majorly Independent of the subjects.
  • That publications is not promotional, just as the interview that was granted.
  • The publications in this Contest is significant because of the award he won and it coming from a reliable source aswell.
  • The award alone is a good potential aswell for him to pass WP: ANYBIO aswell.

And also on the second good ref which you also termed promotional https://www.bellanaija.com/2020/12/babajide-oluwase-of-renewdrive-is-our-bellanaijamcm-this-week/

For our #BellaNaijaMCM feature this week, we celebrate Babajide Oluwase, a green economy explorer and an innovator with keen interest in environment, spatial planning, clean energy and business development.

Babajide is the founder/CEO of RenewDrive, a startup that designs and develops innovative Clean-Tech solutions especially for people who live in rural areas and have per capita income of less than US$2 per day. The problem RenewDrive is solving is the affordability and access to dependable clean energy solutions. Currently, its business is service-based for fruit and vegetable farmers and it’s mainly centred on solving food storage related challenges in developing countries. RenewDrive designs and installs affordable, solar-powered walk-in storage hubs – Ecotutu – for fruit and vegetable farmers. With Ecotutu, RenewDrive is pioneering a revolutionary way to preserve fruits and vegetables for a fraction of the cost and energy consumption of large conventional refrigerators. Ecotutu is a solar-powered walk-in evaporative solution against post-harvest losses in developing countries. The system is designed to be used for on-farm cooling and storage after harvest to enable farmers store and preserve fresh perishables until they get to end-consumers. RenewDrive’s model also promotes the engagement of women and youth, especially in rural communities. Most of them are farmers who help collect, sort and process agricultural waste into biochar. RenewDrive then processes it into carbon-neutral briquette. This has directly benefitted livelihood of local farmers by turning waste into wealth – which may have otherwise been burnt – as well as creating economic opportunity for women and youth in a sustainable manner. Babajide has a mini-MBA from Lagos Business School (Venture In Management Programme) and a B.Tech (Hons) in Urban and Regional Planning from Federal University of Technology Akure. Babajide is a Sustainable Solutions Africa 30 under 30 Fellow, Earth Charter Young Leader, TEF/GIZ Fellow (2019), George Ayittey Platinum Prize Winner, LEAP Africa SIP Fellow (2019/20) and a Global Shaper of the Global Shapers Community. Babajide is also the author of “The Young Climate Heroes” to sensitize children about global warming and climate change. The book uses story and comical illustration to simplify technical terms underlying global warming and climate change, to enable children easily understand and take action.

We celebrate Babajide for his contribution to the achievement of some of the sustainable development goals and for helping rural farmers earn more from their harvest.

If you are conversant with BellaNaija publications they usually Frontline african celebrities or entrepreneur or footballers etc that made impacts for the week or months. Just as we have team or players of the week or months that made headlines in football. If a Media house write a publications on the subjects does it makes it promotional?

  • In this Contest and Wikipedia terms, it no where near promotional and by that passes the WP:GNG
  • Promotions is when, the subjects hasn't made an impacts or headlines and a publications is frabricated but this wasn't the case in this atall.
Comments:TimothyBlue Please kindly look at the additional provided four references they are reliable sources from World Economic Forum, Earth Charter, University of Iowa and Nigeria Energy Forum [[30]][[31]][[32]][[33]] Epcc12345 (talk) 00:35, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: When you want to demonstrate notability or convince others to keep, spamming lots of refs and walls of text (especially with disparaging comments) is counter-productive. People rarely read walls of text, and when they do they are annoyed by them because they are unnecessary and time consuming. What @Epcc12345: did above was perfect: present ~3-5 of what you consider the best sources showing notability (ones that are indisputably independent, reliable and that address the subject directly and indepth. Then ask other editors to review them. No more is needed and this simple method is very effective. ~3-5 sources and if you can sustain 2 of them, you have a persuasive case for keeping.
Now here is the important part: Epcc12345 posted these sources 15 days ago, but I didn't see them because they were lost in walls of text. Walls of text and spamming as many links as possible is counter-productive to discussions and to a position, whether delete or keep.
The most effective Keep points will always be focused of the best sources (not every mention that can be found) and have concise and direct points based in policy and guidelines. And if your goal is to persuade someone, derogatory comments are going to hurt not help your cause (no one did so here, but it is common on other AfDs).
Finally, even if you do not persuade an editor or they do not respond, the closer will weigh those sources and they will have an impact. However if they are lost in walls of text and unnecessary lists of links, the closer might miss them.  // Timothy :: talk  09:34, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Timothy - all four of those sources are submitted bios in sections similar to 'our members' and not at all independent of the authour. I'm afraid none of them would contribute to a WP:GNG argument. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have made your points, obscuring your clear and concise post with more clutter will not help editors reading the discussion, and will not help your cause.  // Timothy :: talk  16:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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